tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-952975163957528731.post3351872615771167867..comments2023-03-29T03:58:11.986-07:00Comments on Come By Chance: What is a woman???Leigh, Andrea Leigh Gilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05627283116565322436noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-952975163957528731.post-9250431705781511692010-06-08T20:58:41.582-07:002010-06-08T20:58:41.582-07:00Great post! Oh I feel you. So much. We should be w...Great post! Oh I feel you. So much. We should be whatever it is we want to be. There's always something from every side telling us what we're doing as women is wrong. We stay at home we aren't contributing to society, we go to work we're neglecting the home or being bad parents. Nothing is ever enough or right. <br /><br />I went to look at wedding dresses and the lady got mad at me because I was engaged for a few months and hadn't looked at bridal magazines. "Aren't you even excited?" So there I was a bad woman and I wasnt showing the proper amount of excitement about trying on crazy dresses. <br /><br />Stupid example but it's things like that all the time that made you question if you're wronging your gender somehow. You're not.<br /><br />You have a great husband. That answer is perfect. If only it were a world of people that thought like that.Reverend Awesomehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02348447725965969056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-952975163957528731.post-85797876703272910552010-05-27T08:35:38.490-07:002010-05-27T08:35:38.490-07:00Wendy,
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You a hundred t...Wendy,<br />Thank You! Thank You! Thank You a hundred times over for being that kind of woman! A woman of that type of bravery is one I strive to be...<br />I could not agree more with you about quietly proving yourself, and not settling for a box (I have never done well with confined spaces, physically or emblematic).<br />That poem was absolutely beautiful and I feel privileged that you have passed it along as I have never heard it before.<br />Thank you for the insightful feed back.Leigh, Andrea Leigh Gilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05627283116565322436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-952975163957528731.post-48714002044604656732010-05-27T08:18:22.549-07:002010-05-27T08:18:22.549-07:00I'm a little Johnny come lately to this post, ...I'm a little <i>Johnny come lately</i> to this post, but I wanted to turn you on to this great speech, turned poem.<br /><br />Back in 1851 (or 1852, depending on the resource ;) at a Women's suffrage convention in Ohio, a wiry black woman got up on the podium and gave the following speech:<br /><br /><i>That man over there say<br /> a woman needs to be helped into carriages<br />and lifted over ditches<br /> and to have the best place everywhere.<br />Nobody ever helped me into carriages<br /> or over mud puddles<br /> or gives me a best place. . .<br /><br />And ain't I a woman?<br /> Look at me<br />Look at my arm!<br /> I have plowed and planted<br />and gathered into barns<br /> and no man could head me. . . <br />And ain't I a woman?<br /> I could work as much<br />and eat as much as a man--<br /> when I could get to it--<br />and bear the lash as well<br /> and ain't I a woman?<br />I have born 13 children<br /> and seen most all sold into slavery<br />and when I cried out a mother's grief<br /> none but Jesus heard me. . .<br />and ain't I a woman?<br /> that little man in black there say<br />a woman can't have as much rights as a man<br /> cause Christ wasn't a woman<br />Where did your Christ come from?<br /> From God and a woman!<br />Man had nothing to do with him!<br /> If the first woman God ever made<br />was strong enough to turn the world<br /> upside down, all alone<br />together women ought to be able to turn it<br /> rightside up again.<br /><br />~Sojouner Truth</i><br /><br />When I was reading your post, I thought about this speech. I don't think we can, or should, be pigeon-holed into one role or another. I was a soldier - and a damned good one, too. There were things that I did (like throwing real live grenades to practice) that men in my company opted out of doing. I was a sharp-shooter. I could hump a 40 lb pack for six miles without complaint. I could run (at the age of 30 as a pack-a-day smoker) faster than many of the men in my company who were a decade younger than I was. I wanted to be a Ranger, but as a woman, I was not allowed. Instead, I worked as hard as I could at whatever job I was given.<br /><br />But I felt like you indicate feeling here - that I had to constantly prove myself - to prove that I enlisted (with a college degree, no less) because I wanted to be a soldier, and not because I wanted to find a husband ;). In the end, though, I came out with my dignity intact and with a strong sense of empowerment, because I accomplished things that only men were supposed to be able to do, and I did it well.<br /><br />The point is that you don't have to settle for the box they try to put you into. Just quietly go about your business, and those who are important will notice and appreciate the person you are, and those who aren't important ... well, they're not important ;).Wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04642417312794814066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-952975163957528731.post-47797857404981153612010-05-19T14:04:54.948-07:002010-05-19T14:04:54.948-07:00Hey Leigh - I stand with your husband on this one....Hey Leigh - I stand with your husband on this one. Women should feel free to be and do what they want to, without feeling trapped by narrow cultural definitions. For that matter, so should men.<br /><br />By the way, thanks for your posts about the flooding. So sorry to hear of all the losses down that way, human and animal.Tovar@AMindfulCarnivorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02786679920725797712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-952975163957528731.post-91788453523634801332010-05-18T08:47:09.636-07:002010-05-18T08:47:09.636-07:00That's really unfortunate. We come from the s...That's really unfortunate. We come from the south as well, and my wife is in no hurry to return for that precise reason.<br /><br />The way I figure it, it's this simple: do you work and provide for your kids and family (in one way or another)? Do your children attend school more often than not? Do you pay your taxes? When you go out in public, are you basically sort of dressed appropriately (i.e. underwear, shoes)? Do you try to do right by your God (and/or other people)?<br /><br />If so, everything else is extra. Tell the rest of 'em that they can suck it! <br /><br />Here's to good, strong, hard working women. Even at their most quarrelsome ;)Kirk Mantayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06556560258304201823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-952975163957528731.post-49649131154881977042010-05-17T18:15:51.755-07:002010-05-17T18:15:51.755-07:00As I'm out of the job I did for 10+years right...As I'm out of the job I did for 10+years right now, I'm hesitating about where to go from here. I'm not anxious to jump into a spot that I'm not wild about, because I want to love what I do...at least for the most part. I want to WANT to do my job, more than HAVE to. And if chickens and dirt is what does it for you, more power to you. If you have to go to court to get a job from a man that you are not physically able to do, I have issue with. Wives were invited to a portion of a thing on FATHERING a few years back and they stated that it is getting to be a HUGE problem all around that fathers are not sticking around families and the boys are not learning how to be good men, husbands, fathers. So this will just get worse and worse. Hey I like high heels some days and a good dress is a blessing! but I'm in jeans scrubbing around in most anything I can handle and I'm good with it. Haven't got a farm yet, but it is more tempting all the time!<br />The job I left, I was the only woman in the building. I did bookwork for a machine shop. Sometimes cookies help to make friends! But I got a bit picky..I knew who was a help and who was a pain and the helpers would get cookies or whatever extra treats, and the others -nothing!Karen Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18189370281390432351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-952975163957528731.post-43257668939741258582010-05-17T13:25:25.999-07:002010-05-17T13:25:25.999-07:00Leigh, I could write pages about this, from experi...Leigh, I could write pages about this, from experience in my life time, but I won't. I will say, however, as a woman, I feel a woman should be whatever and whoever she chooses. No matter WHAT that is. Anyone who denies that freedom to anyone, deserves it not for themselves. Male, or female. Women should follow their own hearts and minds and to hell with anyone else. And yes, I extend the same freedom to men.Karen Thomason/Gordon Setter Crossinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05227448504530795035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-952975163957528731.post-77878112336135728532010-05-16T20:53:32.640-07:002010-05-16T20:53:32.640-07:00No worries in referance to the bloggee in question...No worries in referance to the bloggee in question, sleep soundfully as you were not the final straw. ;) I read several hunting and survivalist blogs a day, unfotunately being in that neck of the woods women can often be viewed as an intruder. Which is frustrating but it is what it is.<br /><br />I agree, now society has changed and certain lessons as you said are no longer acceptable in a group learning activity, such as hunting and trapping animals. I think that is a shame as it is extremely important to teach our children to live off the land but to do so respectively, with caution, with out damaging habitat and taking more than you need. It is of my opinion that if we emphasize responsibility (in hunting and other wildlife programs; boyscouts) instead of fearing that someone will be desensitized, we would all be a lot better off. These are valuable lessons that... for lack of a better word, we shouldnt pussy foot around. These are all important lessons to teach our children...male and female. <br />As you said before you believe that we are missing "men" in society today...If we are missing our hunter gather provider... so as a mother to a daughter... what kind of woman do I raise her to be? I think that you know where I am coming from. <br /><br />The word Feminization is merely a discription word... and not a word I tend take offensively. So no worries. My thoughts arent about words but about the roles... What is exceptable for women? I dont want to be sterotyped as a sterotypical feminist because I do actually enjoy being femine but I also want be able to hold my own in the field and I also enjoy a lot of activities that have historically been dominated by males... So where does that leave the modern day woman? Awe... I think I am rambling...just hashing out my thoughts here. <br />Thanks for the comment I always enjoy feed back.<br />And I also very much enjoy reading your blog as well. <br />-LeighLeigh, Andrea Leigh Gilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05627283116565322436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-952975163957528731.post-35918414191255430502010-05-16T19:37:12.779-07:002010-05-16T19:37:12.779-07:00I hope it was not my post that offended. I meant n...I hope it was not my post that offended. I meant nothing about women. When I used the term feminization of the scouts I didn't mean it as to gender ( the leaders are men after all) but as to the activities that are planned are stereotypically feminine (arts and crafts). We are not allowed to show the boys how to trap animals or hunt (the scouts feel that it my hurt some one's sensibilities about animals). I fill that you would react the same way and leave since they do share your worldview. The people who run the scouts now (Men) worry more about not bullying than how to fillet a fish ( they don't allow it in Cub Scouts, to dangerous). I do however think that we are missing men in society nowadays ( and I mean stereotypical men not metrosexuals). I think woman have stepped up in the U.S. lately, God knows where young boys would be nowadays without strong mothers, but the vacuum left by sturdy and reliable men may not be easily filled. Love your blog and the music. See you around from another Tennessean Your pal the EnvirocapitalistR. 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